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an observation of natural right and law: essay by: lincoln dyer
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*Note: I urge the readers of this essay to be careful in considering all that will be said here in this discourse. I ask that you allow the time necessary to digest the thoughts within this writing,…Continue

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20 premises, the problem of civilization, derrick jensen: end game.
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20 premises, the problem of civilization, derrick jensen: end game. 1) civilization, especially industrial civilization can never be sustainable.2) traditional communities never voluntarily give up…Continue

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an observation of natural right and law: essay by: lincoln dyer

*Note: I urge the readers of this essay to be careful in considering all that will be said here in this discourse. I ask that you allow the time necessary to digest the thoughts within this writing, and might I remind you, that I have no political affiliation nor do I belong to any group. What will be said here are my thoughts on the nature of rights concerning our current situation here in the United States.*IIf the sign of maturity is the ability to unflinchingly follow a leader; if the sign of maturity is the ability to sacrifice ones conscience in order to fall into agreement with any authority, I will never mature. If being mature entails me to consent to the wholesale slaughter and mass murder of a peoples in a far and distant land, who did not one thing to you nor I, I will not hesitate to remain a child, in fact, I will proudly die a child, who’s conscience is clean.IIIf it were a necessity, or a natural law, for humans to be ignorant, why would humans possess an enlarged neo cortex, which has within it, inherent abilities and specific mechanisms for one to think critically and problem solve? If it were a natural law for humans to be intellectual, why would I be attacked when employing my intellect to matters which concern me and my life directly? This to me, is not a paradox, or even a nonsensical line of questioning. The fact is that we have in our possession as humans, minds capable of discovering and creating nearly anything, but conversely, we too have minds able to destroy and produce unimaginable suffering. It is all in how one uses their tool, one can allow their mind to grow, or one can allow it to whither, one can make love and one can make war. I choose love and growth.IIIBoth philosophically and intellectually, do my thoughts and actions harmonize with the utility of the greatest good, and it is only logical, that the general will must harmonize and reflect the greatest good; this is how civilized societies fundamentally operate. From all to each, from each to all.IVIt is also true, that one must have equal access to all that is needed for one to live and grow. I fully agree that this basic principle does in fact extend itself into the realm of health care. We may call this an axiomatic truth, a natural right, and here; I am still in full agreement. But, upon discovering this natural right, one must consider the dualistic nature of what we term a right.VA right may be given to all, but may not be practiced by all. In this land, we have what you call a natural right to bear arms. But, does this right mean all must own a gun? Would it be just, for an external authority to tell me I must buy a gun and bear an arm?Does the woman’s right to abort a baby translate to all women must have an abortion?And would it be just to threaten that woman with a punishment if she chose not to abort her child? These are merely analogies, but I find them very fitting to our discussion.VIWe here in the united states have recently had what many term “health care reform”.The basic premise to this reform is that health care is a natural right, and I am still in full agreement with this line of logic. But, unlike all other rights, this right must be practiced by the entire population of the United States, and those who choose not to practice their natural right will be monetarily punished. So now, I will ask, is this legislature considered a right or a law? If by definition, it is a right, have I not the right to not exercise my right? Have I not the right to not practice this natural god given right, like all other rights, without fear of reprimand?VIIThis is all a matter of concepts of terminologies and individual inclinations. Everyone is no doubt infinitely different; we are all unique, both in mind and body. We share many things in common as a people, as humans, but I am most interested in the intellect. We all share, to a greater or lesser degree, the capabilities of foresight and critical thought. I truly enjoy testing my beliefs, thoughts and convictions, for it is this simple act that culminates in the process which we call learning. For me, learning is growth. We need more lovers of knowledge, lovers of reason and of investigation. Furthermore, I urge all to test their convictions, beliefs and preconceived notions. I ask all to ask themselves whether they are using their own mental faculties to come to conclusions, or are they merely ratifying decisions already made for them by political party, group or authority.VIIII now ask, whom ever stands behind this health care reform, to clarify what a right is and how it is practiced, for as I have demonstrated, a right may or may not be practiced, and if it is not practiced and there is a punishment for not practicing said right, it naturally follows that this is not a right, but in fact a law. And as far as I know, this will be the first law in this country, which demands that every citizen purchase something in order to not receive a punishment. That is almost too strange to write.VIVLet us look to Rousseau for a moment:“In fact, laws are always useful to those who have everything and injurious to those who have nothing; hence it follows that the social state is advantageous to men only so far as they all have enough and none of them too much.” J.J. Rousseau “social contract-Paragraph #22How could this law be abused by the few against the many? Obviously it’s a transfer of wealth of some sort, and it is starting to appear that private influence within the process of our government is no longer a conspiracy, but a sad fact of our reality. Once private influence has taken hold of the legislative or executive branches of government, the general will of the greatest good immediately takes second place to the aspirations of private interests. Upon observing the past, one finds that this collusion between private interests and civil government is more than often, not in harmony with the general will of the population. Recent polls concerning the war on terror and the health care reform pay testament to this observation. “Nothing is more dangerous than the influence of private interests in public affairs….the state having been so corrupted into its very substance becomes impossible to reform.” J.J. Rousseau “social contract” Paragraph #191XBefore closing, I would like to touch on a few more points. I believe that a government that rules by force or threats is impotent, illegitimate, and the antithesis to a civilized society. There can be no such things as natural right, liberty or freedom in a society ruled by barbarians of brute force and intimidation. Any law that must be enforced by constant threat should not be a law, for, if the general will is in accordance with a law, it will never need enforcement, its truth stands alone. Think of all the laws we openly obey, we obey them because our own will is in harmony with them, we feel them to be just, hence we willingly obey, not because we are forced to.XIFinally, I will finish with this; I believe there is much more to being human than the labels we place on ourselves and one another. There is more to us as humans than being a democrat or republican, being black or white, man or woman. I see many people bickering and placing blame on other labels, I see frivolous arguments of opinion rather than investigative spirits communicating. I see many that are closed into a logical system that only has two sides, good and bad, left or right; this is called a two value system. It is this ideology that spreads and ferments the “us against them mentality”. This type of thinking could not be any more flawed, for upon brief introspection, on will find our minds operate on a multi valued system, there is more than either or, there are many shades of grey. this is one way we are steered by authority, they operate upon us in a good and evil paradigm, but in reality, we know that everyone is not good or evil, we are all a little bit of both, all in infinitely varying degrees. No two people are alike. Let us find our commonalities, and build true debate and discussion of matters that concern us and our lives. Let our minds remain open and let us openly investigate all that is necessary for our collective understanding. For, I truly believe that things such as the reform that is now taking place are merely tools for distracting us from more dire situations, such as war and the like, while at the same time, dividing us and creating the environment that allows us to hate one another. I say tear the walls down, open up your heart, your mind; discover life and love and laughter. Let us learn, let us educate, let us relearn to learn, let us follow our own consciences without force, and without threats.Let us have a choice. This is all I ask. My friends, our time is now.Peace to all of you, forever your friend in the struggle.*i give anyone the right to circulate my works, all i ask is not alter them*© LINCOLN DYER/THE PHILOSOPHIC ANARCHIST/KNOWONE THE VAGABONDSee More
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20 premises, the problem of civilization, derrick jensen: end game.

20 premises, the problem of civilization, derrick jensen: end game. 1) civilization, especially industrial civilization can never be sustainable.2) traditional communities never voluntarily give up resources, hence economic expansion by war and conquest.3) our way of living, industrial civilization, is based upon and requires persistent and widespread violence, without violence, industrial society would collapse.4) civilization is clearly defined by hierarchy, violence waged by those on the higher levels is always invisible and unnoticed. violence waged by those from the bottom against those at the top is regarded as unthinkable.5) property is for those at the top of the hierarchy, destroying the property and lives of those at the bottom is called "production", destroying the property of those at the top is called "injustice"6) civilization is not redeemable, civilization will continue to rape and degrade all life until all life or the planet collapses.7) the longer we wait for civilization to crash, the worse life will be after its fall.8) the needs of the natural world come after mans economic needs.9) civilization leads to overpopulation, hence the need for depopulating practices, war, famine and plague.10) civilization and most of its members are insane, its culture is driven by a death urge, an urge to destroy life in general.11) civilization is a culture of occupation.12) there are no rich or poor, there are just people. some people just have more pieces of paper and numbers on a computer screen. those with less pieces of paper buy into the delusion that those with more paper are superior and allow those who have more paper to enslave those without paper. money is a lie.13) those in power must rule by force, their power is a delusion.14) those raised in civilization must hate all life, they must allow all life to be exploited and used for the benefit of those with paper and power.15) love does not imply pacifism. (kill the rich?)16) in civilization, the material world is primary. we love our things.17) civilization is a mistake.18) those in civilization have no sense of self.19) civilizations problem lies in the belief that we have the right to control and abuse the natural world.20) in civilization, the economy drives all decisions, morals, ethics and respect are not taken into account. D.J. LECTURE PT 1http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8649250863235826256#D.J. LECTURE PT 2http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8649250863235826256#docid=6557057252892383895  See More
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At 12:29pm on April 12, 2010, Sparky™Sparky™ said…
ya sweet man sounds great and i was gunna talk to u abut maybe a proposal of some sort lol just a thought that i think could work cuz like i looked up ur solo instramental shit and it was tight and like i think itd totally be rad if we maybe hooked up and i rapped for some of the beats or somethin haha idk just a thought;) and nah i used to go to dekalb and i had litsened to their stuff and saw u guys on their page and i was j/w if it was the same band and it was lol but ya man im a fan of ur shit and if you ever would like to have me featured in a song or somthin i'd be honored and like u should check out R.A.N.T. in my blogs and ya but i g2g peace!
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At 6:27pm on April 9, 2010, Sparky™Sparky™ said…
hey man i reside in avilla and go to east noble in kendaville lol and have u guys played with the freezing scgene... or somthin like that.. lol its a teacher from dekalb and his brother..
At 11:11am on February 18, 2010, lowkeylowkey said…
These could be interesting to discuss. It seems to me that some of these points are contradictory and as such can't all be implemented.

However continuing the discussing in comments is pointless and fairly annoying to be honest. Since, it's your topic, how about starting a thread in the General forum? Then you & I can start discussing it ....then see if anyone else joins us.
At 1:11pm on February 17, 2010, lowkeylowkey said…
Thanks for the comments on my page. I'll try to check out your tunes when i get a chance.

As for the 20 points, that seems like it would be an interesting starting point for a conversation as you are an anarcho-primiitist and I am a voluntarist (i.e. anarcho-capitalist). Might be fun to start a conversation comparing the two .... see if we can get anyone else interested in the anarchy end of the spectrum and take them away from the state! :)
At 10:09am on February 5, 2010, COZCOZ said…
half my way being on stage every day would be my way, word em up i saw war chiefs mpc nice he said u got tha same one yeah down to kill another one with u
 
 
 

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