Matt From NJ

United States Marine Corps Enlisted

For my whole life iv'e always been about trying to find peace, and try to promote change, and i have always had strong oppinions about the War. i have also always been a man of trying to find the truth, in todays media, you always here "whats happening with the war" however its hard to find the truth,

so i made the choice to join the Marine Corps to see for my self what really goes on in war.

i hope i get deployed, for me its one step closer to find the Truth.

please, just becuase im going to be a Marine does not mean i support the war and killings, so please dont take it like that. hopefully i with find some truth i can share with Fightwithtools.org

please wish me luck

Semper Fi

-Matt

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lowkeyPermalink Reply by lowkey on March 31, 2009 at 3:07pm
Your first big lesson will be that Marines do far more than fight and kill. I spent more time on humanitarian missions when I was in than any other non-training deployment. Of course times have changed but as Iraq wraps up, I expect it to return to the way it was. Or at least I hope it will.

As Ronald Reagan said “Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have made a difference to the world, but the Marines don’t have that problem.”

Or as Colin Powell said "Lying offshore, ready to act, the presence of ships and Marines sometimes means much more than just having air power or ship's fire, when it comes to deterring a crisis. And the ships and Marines may not have to do anything but lie offshore. It is hard to lie offshore with a C-141 or C-130 full of airborne troops."

Welcome to a proud tradition, keep your head down and pay attention to your NCOs.

Semper Fi.
Ray CurryPermalink Reply by Ray Curry on March 31, 2009 at 3:14pm
Matt,

I enlisted in the Marine Corps the week of Sept 11 2001. I didn't not go on the initial invasion of Iraq in 2003 and this upset me greatly. In 2004 I deployed as a turret gunner with 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit (SOC) to the An Najaf Province for a year.

These experiences did in fact, bring me closer to the "truth". The truth is, War is ugly. There is no slow-mo patriotic music when the people you know die, there is no standing armies each on their side of the line, playing by the same "rules", and over 1,320,000 Iraqis have been killed - that doesn't sound like Iraqi Freedom (OIF?) to me. Let me save you some time if I can.

We are not at war with Iraq, our nation is Occupying Iraq BY military force, instilled(ing) a puppet government and vying for their resources thru multi-national corporations like Exxon Mobile, ConocoPhillips and Chevron.

I know that you are a Marine, and will deploy as ordered (as did I), but if you're looking for ground-truth, I would like you to examine testimony of current era veterans exposing our direct involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan called Winter Soldier:

Winter Soldier
Ray CurryPermalink Reply by Ray Curry on March 31, 2009 at 6:06pm

War Is A Racket
Smedley Bulter
Major General
United States Marine Corps

-the video is kinda corny, but those are his published words.
January.30.2008Permalink Reply by January.30.2008 on March 31, 2009 at 6:52pm
Good luck man. I hope you find what you are looking for and then some. Always stay safe and be well.
Matt From NJPermalink Reply by Matt From NJ on March 31, 2009 at 7:55pm
wow thank you all, really thanks, i though i would be battered for my choice
Mike FlahertyPermalink Reply by Mike Flaherty on April 2, 2009 at 4:55am
On this forum?? Nah, I'm sure most find that folks on here are here because they are open minded.

I had a friend who joined the ARMY for your reason and his other personal reason. He sat there listening to a few of us veterans talk about all of the wrong going on overseas. When a parent tells their son or daughter not to watch R-rated movies it's because they are trying to spare them from being exposed to things at a young age; things that they will learn about and experience in person too much in their lives. But the kid always wants to know why they can't see the R-rated movie, "It can't be that bad, can it?" Then they get with their buddies and they watch a nice scary rated R movie. Then they have nightmares. They need their parents to calm them down and assure them that what they saw in that movie wasn't real, that it was only a movie.

Matt, I already know too many people who never even wanted to see this movie experience nightmares and worse. If you really want to see the movie, go ahead. But I would just tell my child that there are sometimes images in those movies that get stuck in your head and you'll wish you never saw it. "Some people really enjoy watching those movies, but maybe it's not for you," I'd say.

You can never be old enough to be able to handle the truth of the occupation of a sovereign nation. And for me it was much like a Where's Waldo puzzle. I was so enamored of the experience of being overseas and taking part in a war ... being a hero, that I overlooked so much wrong. That was my first pass over. I had two deployments, and even then I needed a friend to guide me and show me where some things were. They gave me better vision and those puzzles starting making more since because I started seeing a lot more of the bigger picture.

Truth is and has been available to you. Ray mentioned the Winter Soldier testimonies. If someone in one prison tells you that the truth about murder is that it doesn't feel as good as you think it might, and another inmate tells you that killing is the best feeling he ever felt, do you really need to seek the TRUTH in that? Or if one guy says stepping in a bear trap wasn't so bad ... etc. You don't have to have first hand experience to find and understand truth. You're merely satisfying curiosity by putting yourself in a potentially harmful situation. There is a name for some people who take part in that same action, drug abusers. Not your casual pot puffer, but people who just wanted to see what more there was.

I hope you get the idea, dude. Have you ever listened to the Fight With Tools album? There is a TON of truth there for you.

I respect your decision, I only wish you would wake up when I shake you :(
Matt From NJPermalink Reply by Matt From NJ on April 2, 2009 at 2:58pm
of course ive listened to the fight with tools album :)

my reasoning is much more complicated than just that. thank you though, respect
Matt From NJPermalink Reply by Matt From NJ on March 31, 2009 at 7:56pm
you know some people just dont understand, most people criticize me.
lowkeyPermalink Reply by lowkey on March 31, 2009 at 8:22pm
That's a good sign. Means that you're being your own man. Most people can't handle that and will try to push you back into the herd.
Matt From NJPermalink Reply by Matt From NJ on April 1, 2009 at 7:54pm
hell no... Ive reach a point in my life where im letting my heart guide my path.
Jay "Brick" B.Permalink Reply by Jay "Brick" B. on April 2, 2009 at 3:56pm
Looks like you're like me. With the need to see the other side of the argument.

Its why I joined the army.

We all seek truth in our own ways.

If you need anything let me know.
Matt From NJPermalink Reply by Matt From NJ on August 8, 2010 at 8:32pm
so, here i am, over a year later, fully trained Lance Corporal in the Marine Corps, just touching base to let you all know of my progress, still love the Flobots

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